Respect ronnie thats the way to look at it. I was blown away by the workshop, it was certainly a moment in my life, suddenly in a room with a number of people who share your hidden 'problem'.. very liberating.. propelled me to where i am now, think it was maybe 8 years ago. I worried about it way too much. but since then got married and changed jobs, grown up, im sure as you know ap's a weight to carry around when your youger, i still did lots with my life but i would be lieing if i said it couldnt have been better.. I always do piss alone but sadly do still suffer ap. it just catches me out.. my brains scarred with worrying about it way too much.