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I have found lately after going to a boxing gym I've been alot more confident and when i enter the bathroom i say to myself don't be a pussy and i use the troff which i was successful but only nearby was a bloke washing his hands .
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Posted by Nick on 13/7/2017, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Helpful "
Very good. Troffs in my opinion are the most difficult ones, because they allow very little privacy!
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Posted by Dylan on 14/7/2017, 6:20 am, in reply to "Re: Helpful "
Yeah they are definitely on the higher end of the scale im from Australia so were riddled with them. Our forum is very quiet. I just want my paruresis fixed just tried so hard but i think i need to move up the ladder instead if going for harder situations.
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Posted by Nick on 15/7/2017, 9:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Helpful "
I think we should go forward step by step, tackling with ever more difficult situations when we feel we can try. If we fail it doesn't matter. We will succed next time!
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Posted by Karl on 17/7/2017, 9:32 am, in reply to "Re: Helpful "
I went for a mountain walk last week and went into the public toilet before i started. It had a rather small trough in it and stank to high Heaven. I was alone and urinated a little and i then stopped to save urine for a further trial in the same toilet after the walk. My level of urgency wasn't particularly good before or after the walk and as i was heading towards the block i noticed another man going in. I took breaths to relax myself the best i could and went in. He was on the right hand end and i went to the left hand end. I noticed just how small the trough was because there looked like there may not of even been room for two men in between us and if there was then arms or elbows would of surely been touching. I was just glad to be able to use an end of the trough. Anyways, due to the low level of urgency i had a slightly slow start but i did manage to urinate when the man was still urinating which was good for my confidence. I was also relieved when i suddenly noticed his urine was flowing to my end of the trough so he wouldn't of noticed if i had started or not.
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Posted by Nick on 17/7/2017, 1:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Helpful "
Very good Karl. You noticed a particular thing that for me is particularly embarassing in troughs: you see someone else's urine. Another difficult thing in troughs is that there are not single posts, so someone can position just elbow-to-elbow with you! In Italy troughs are uncommon, but I think they are the most difficult ones.
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Posted by Karl on 24/7/2017, 12:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Helpful "
Thanks Nick. Indeed, the urine flow is a horrible thing for a paruresis sufferer. Elbow-to-elbow is most unpleasant for anyone whether they have paruresis or not unless they are totally inhibited but it is good for desensing very later on in working up your hierarchy of challenge as you may find yourself in this position in the future. If elbow-to-elbow was my only option at the moment i would use a cubicle unless i had a high level of urgency. That's great that troughs are uncommon in Italy. Last Saturday i went out for my mate's birthday. I used the gents 7 or 8 times (would need to check my paruresis diary to be precise as i wrote notes after each visit by using my coding system) and only went to the gents once in each pub to desense at different places. I also did this to desense with different gentlemen, and to use different styles of urinals which resulted in no misfires. At one pub i wanted to use the toilet because i recalled it had one long porcelain urinal and i had used it only once before on a previous night out. I remembered it was busy last time so perfect for desensing. My level of urgency wasn't great but i could also tell that my abdomen wasn't fully relaxed so i knew i shouldn't of gone in there but knew to try would be an achievement in itself. Indeed there were men in there but fortunately i was able to stand in the right hand end and turn into a corner. Men were coming and going and realising i wasn't able to urinate NOT because of my paruresis but because my level of urgency wasn't high enough was very self-reassuring to me. I stayed there for a few minutes and didn't even think that the other men would be thinking of me or noticing what i was doing so i stayed calm. I was faking it for as long as i wanted and left when i was ready feeling perfectly comfortable with what i had done. A pat on the back to you Karl!
