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I have suffered from AP since being a small boy. At about the age of 26 I found this community and, after going on a beginners workshop, and continuing to practse, I went from never ever being able to pee in a urinal, to having pissed in some of the conditions in the top levels of my hierarchy. For me, the key to it is knowledge. Knowing in what circumstances you are able to go and if a miss-fire happens being able to evaluate why it occurred.
A great benefit to me was to learn about a trick that goes against your general thought patterns. I have found that the stronger my urge to pee, the more likely I am to be able to go. So, if I think I won't be able to go in a certain situation when I need to, I might actually drink more to make the urge stronger. Counter-intuitive and I appreciate it might not work for everyone but it did for me.
Anyhow, I am now 30 and armed with my understanding of my hierarchy I am much more confident about peeing in public and although I have far from a loose and easy opening bladder, I know how to pee in just about any set of circumstances.
Until recently when a new and unforeseen challenge arose- the girlfriends dad. I don't know if it's the authority thing, or the pressure to impress or what, but it made my bladder go all shy again and has knocked my confidence a lot. My girlfriend and I live together in a small flat in London and he came to stay for a week. Knowing that he could hear me in he bathroom through the day has caused me a great deal of lock up and all of my knowledge seemed to be absent. So i decided to come back on this website and once again I'm in a better place for after having read some of the posts by other people who have made good progress, it has triggered my recollection of the most important thing to remember and that is: it doesn't matter!
I think I will continue to struggle to pee when in a quiet flat when he is around but I won't care. I'll just stand over the toilet until I pee. It might take a minute or maybe even more but it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. I have got a huge amount of proof about this. This is part of the knowledge you get once you start to pee in public and can see things from 'the other side'. I've stood next to people who have not been able to pee, they didn't occupy my thoughts for a second. I've stood next to a urinal where three or more people have come and gone while I waited for my flow. No-one cares at all.
Knowing that no-one cares is not going to cure AP but it helps you feel better. All the friends I have told about it don't think any less of me (I had not told anyone before the beginners course). Some of them have even told me I how insignificant my problem was.. Often enough by giving examples of the problems they or their friends have that are really terrible.
So I wanted to write this post for 2 reasons: the first because I know back in the day I would have really been pleased to hear a story about how someone with my problem (even existed) has found that they can find many ways to make it far less of a concern, and secondly to try and get people to really believe that other people knowing that you have this problem is no big deal at all in terms of the way they think of you.
Re: The truest words
Posted by Roy on 8/4/2012, 5:39 pm, in reply to "The truest words"
Good to hear you can get some relief from this problem Johnny by drinking more. Unfortunately I get the opposite effect rather like untying a balloon that has been inflated for a few days,the neck of the balloon has collapsed and will not let the air out.So as the urge increases I will lock up completely even in my own house and can even be bent double my only relief is to self catheterize.So I have to be very careful not to reach that stage,don't know if anyone else suffers from the same symptons?
I am not the same as you, but similar to a degree. Beyond a certain level of urge, I find that the flow is very slow to start and then it is only a slow needle jet. I put it down to a childhood of holding on at school and on car journeys, resulting in the sphincter becoming over-developed (like a weightlifter's bicep); then when it is clamped shut for a period of time, I assume it spams shut; releasig that takes time, and even when partially relaxed, the opening will be small due to the excess muscle tissue.
So I go before that happens; means I pee more frequently, but at least it is a free flow.
cheers
Andrew
Re: The truest words
Posted by Roy on 3/5/2012, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: The truest words" Message modified by board administrator 3/5/2012, 10:20 pm
Thanks for the reply to my question Andrew ,I thought everybody had emigrated such was the response. Yes I think you have a very good point there as I remember when on one of Andrew's workshops and I loaded myself up with water, about 3 pints and walked across to the shopping centre. In the shopping centre I suddenly became desperate to go (which is unusual for me because my mind usually blots this urge out). I staggered into the gents, went to the urinal (at this stage I didn't care who was next to me I just wanted to empty and get rid of the pain). NOTHING, not a drip after what seemed a lifetime I retired to an empty cubical and I must have been in there about an hour in agony before my sphincter decided to let the water out. Not that I'm against Andrew's workshops, for most sufferers they are absolutely essential, but for people like me water loading can be a double edged sword.