Posted by Geoff P on 11/4/2009, 11:25 am, in reply to "Re: Definition"

Hi Guys, This is really interesting. Isn't it the fear we have deep inside that's the problem, the fear that stops us releasing urine inside and over which we have no concious control? I can honestly say that I have no fear of being seen having a pee. In fact, recently, I have been training myself to think "I want someone to come in now and see me doing this". When I've been having a pee, I've been standing further back from the urinal and wanting to be seen (hope this does't sound a bit purvy!). For me the fear is what people will think if I'm standing there not performing. For me, it's not the fear of being seen, its the fear of not being able to go and being thought of as odd. You are dead right, Simon, that we do reinforce the cirle of embarrassment every time we avoid the difficult situation. Personally I think I need to reinforce what I can do (using a urinal with no one present), until I can always keep going when someone comes in, before I can reasonably expect to be able to start in company. I've started to go to the urinals at work even if there is someone in a cubicle, or washing their hands, as it is fairly certain that they will be leaving very soon. The system falls down, of course, when they decide to start up a conversation! But, at least they've seen me at a urinal, and that helps me feel 'normal' and that causes a small crack in that damn circle. Are any of you guys booked into the London Begginners Workshop? If so, I'll see you in June. It will be really good to meet up. Cheers, Geoff

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